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Topless. On the beach. An opinion poll?
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So, you and your boyfriend are on the beach. Laying back on your elbows, on your beach towels. You glance over at his chest; smooth and chiseled. Baking in the sun and covered with sunscreen and sweat. You look down at your chest. Your nipples are still hard from the sunscreen he just finished rubbing on you. You turn back to lift your face up the the bright sunshine. And then a shadow comes right in your field of view.

"Ma'am. I'm going to have to ask you to cover your top up", says the officer.

"Why", you ask?

"Because females are not allowed to go topless on this beach", he replies.

"How come my boyfriend doesn't have to cover up?"

"Because he is a male, and males are allowed to go without a shirt".

"Well, what makes hm a male"?

"Because his genitals consist of a penis and testicles".

"So what if I was the same", you ask, as you flatten the front of your bikini bottoms to show that, you too, are assembled in a similar fashion.

"Oh. Well miss, you still need to have your top on".... Etc, etc, etc.....

So the point of this is, does society judge me to be female due to breasts, or the appearance of breasts? If so, then I would agree I cannot go topless as would a male. But if society judges me a male because of my unseen genitalia, then I should be able to go topless just like my boyfriend, and anywhere he goes topless.

Society CANNOT have it both ways. If you go with the premise that is shoved down our throats, there are only two genders; male and female. If you call me male, yippie, I get to let the girls out for sun and fresh air. If you call me female, then I will cover them; but you better start treating me as such, and willingly change everything legal to say I am female.

So, what do you have say, or think about them apples. Or them boobs! Love, Michelle Heart Heart
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(08-13-2019, 06:52 PM)MichelleL Wrote: So, you and your boyfriend are on the beach. Laying back on your elbows, on your beach towels. You glance over at his chest; smooth and chiseled. Baking in the sun and covered with sunscreen and sweat. You look down at your chest. Your nipples are still hard from the sunscreen he just finished rubbing on you. You turn back to lift your face up the the bright sunshine. And then a shadow comes right in your field of view.

"Ma'am. I'm going to have to ask you to cover your top up", says the officer.

"Why", you ask?

"Because females are not allowed to go topless on this beach", he replies.

"How come my boyfriend doesn't have to cover up?"

"Because he is a male, and males are allowed to go without a shirt".

"Well, what makes hm a male"?

"Because his genitals consist of a penis and testicles".

"So what if I was the same", you ask, as you flatten the front of your bikini bottoms to show that, you too, are assembled in a similar fashion.

"Oh. Well miss, you still need to have your top on".... Etc, etc, etc.....

So the point of this is, does society judge me to be female due to breasts, or the appearance of breasts? If so, then I would agree I cannot go topless as would a male. But if society judges me a male because of my unseen genitalia, then I should be able to go topless just like my boyfriend, and anywhere he goes topless.

Society CANNOT have it both ways. If you go with the premise that is shoved down our throats, there are only two genders; male and female. If you call me male, yippie, I get to let the girls out for sun and fresh air. If you call me female, then I will cover them; but you better start treating me as such, and willingly change everything legal to say I am female.

So, what do you have say, or think about them apples. Or them boobs! Love, Michelle Heart Heart
This is an interesting topic Michelle!  I have gone to the beach with my boyfriend, but never at a topless beach.  And also, I always wear a one piece bathing suit and not a bikini.  So it would be hard for me be topless regardless!  Here I am with a bathing suit I bought at Macy’s.  What do you think?


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Suzy, nice bathing suit. So it's not the topless beach issue, it is more what society uses as a gauge to determine what physical attributes constitute male or female. If having breasts is the gauge, then fine, label me female and I'll cover up. But once you label me as female, then that is the way it will remain. If society wants to use my genital configuration as a gauge, then fine, I'm male and I can walk around without a top wherever other males are allowed to, and that is the way it will remain. Society can't have it both ways. Hugs, Michelle Heart Heart
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Michelle,
I am going to assume that you have breasts because you either had implants or they are natural because you are on HRT. Given that assumption, even though you might be going through transition and still have male parts below, because the larger majority of the male population views breasts as sexually arousing, I would side with the officer that you need to cover up. The casual observer does not know that you have male parts below, only that they see your sexually arousing breasts. We could go off on a tangent and argue whether it is fair/unfair to view female breasts as sexually arousing but looking at this in the context of sexuality, I would say that breasts are sexually arousing. Many of us wish we had breasts because not only does it help complete our femininity, we also know that it enhances our appearance, helps to complete our look, and makes us all the more attractive to the male population. I'm not saying that applies to all CD's of course, but it does apply to many. Thank you for your thought provoking post.
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Anne, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have 'breasts' yet. Well I am on hormones, and they are just north of an A cup, but I hope to get on a stronger dose when I see the 'doc' on the 27th. And my therapist is writing the letter so I can schedule the orchiectomy ASAP. With that done, and a higher dose of HRT, I'm really shooting for implants early next summer.

But yes, I agree with your thinking. So I guess once I have some real 'D cup meat' up top, and nothing of any use downstairs, I'll just have to wear a top when I mow the lawn, or go to the pool. So sad.... Big Grin Big Grin  Love ya, Michelle Heart Heart
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(08-16-2019, 06:15 PM)MichelleL Wrote: Anne, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don't have 'breasts' yet. Well I am on hormones, and they are just north of an A cup, but I hope to get on a stronger dose when I see the 'doc' on the 27th. And my therapist is writing the letter so I can schedule the orchiectomy ASAP. With that done, and a higher dose of HRT, I'm really shooting for implants early next summer.

But yes, I agree with your thinking. So I guess once I have some real 'D cup meat' up top, and nothing of any use downstairs, I'll just have to wear a top when I mow the lawn, or go to the pool. So sad.... Big Grin Big Grin  Love ya, Michelle Heart Heart

I can't wait to see you in a pic, rockin' a dress with a pair of natural D cup breasts.  You will look fantastic.

My discussion was certainly an opinion piece and not intended to direct the discussion towards or about you.   But I suppose we could insert any one of us into that scenario and discussion.  I think that even a woman or TG gurl with A breasts is going to sexually arouse males.  Certainly some men are turned on all the more with the sight of larger breasts.  IMO the male brain is wired to copulate so most males are going to be aroused at the sight of bare womanly flesh whether it's in the form of an A cup or larger.  So I can understand that many/most communities will have a dress code that requires women to cover up.  If you need to get your boobies tanned, then seek out that topless beach and tan them there....or convince your local township to change the dress code.
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Anne, 'you can't wait'? Hell, I dying here without them. Big Grin I just want to tell some surgeon the 'git er done'! Yes, I live in that part of the country. You know foreplay around here, 'git er drunk, git er home, n git er done'! Oh well, first things first. And it is back to moving and putting everything away. There was stuff all over the house yesterday, and it was driving me nuts. So all the food is sorted nicely in the pantry, all of the cookware and kitchenware is nice and tidy, and the bathrooms are all nice and clean. So today is the boys bedroom dressers and their clothes. Yea, all I need is a 50's style dress and I will be set. Gott run. Love, Michelle Heart Heart
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(08-17-2019, 06:28 AM)MichelleL Wrote: Anne, 'you can't wait'? Hell, I dying here without them. Big Grin I just want to tell some surgeon the 'git er done'! Yes, I live in that part of the country. You know foreplay around here, 'git er drunk, git er home, n git er done'! Oh well, first things first. And it is back to moving and putting everything away. There was stuff all over the house yesterday, and it was driving me nuts. So all the food is sorted nicely in the pantry, all of the cookware and kitchenware is nice and tidy, and the bathrooms are all nice and clean. So today is the boys bedroom dressers and their clothes. Yea, all I need is a 50's style dress and I will be set. Gott run. Love, Michelle Heart Heart

I envision you with the June Cleaver look....polka dot 50's skater dress, pearl necklace, pearl earrings...as you are tidying up the place.  BTW, you must have gotten your ears pierced by now, right?
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(08-18-2019, 05:34 AM)Anne Wrote:
(08-17-2019, 06:28 AM)MichelleL Wrote: Anne, 'you can't wait'? Hell, I dying here without them. Big Grin I just want to tell some surgeon the 'git er done'! Yes, I live in that part of the country. You know foreplay around here, 'git er drunk, git er home, n git er done'! Oh well, first things first. And it is back to moving and putting everything away. There was stuff all over the house yesterday, and it was driving me nuts. So all the food is sorted nicely in the pantry, all of the cookware and kitchenware is nice and tidy, and the bathrooms are all nice and clean. So today is the boys bedroom dressers and their clothes. Yea, all I need is a 50's style dress and I will be set. Gott run. Love, Michelle Heart Heart

I envision you with the June Cleaver look....polka dot 50's skater dress, pearl necklace, pearl earrings...as you are tidying up the place.  BTW, you must have gotten your ears pierced by now, right?
Anne, oh I would love a 50s style skater dress. Some day. Christmas is only a few months away, and I've been a good girl this year. And sadly, no on the ears. It is on my list, but probably another Christmas present. I've just got to get through this move, get my RV sold, and get the medical stuff lined up. Love ya, Michelle Heart Heart
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(08-18-2019, 07:23 PM)MichelleL Wrote:
(08-18-2019, 05:34 AM)Anne Wrote:
(08-17-2019, 06:28 AM)MichelleL Wrote: Anne, 'you can't wait'? Hell, I dying here without them. Big Grin I just want to tell some surgeon the 'git er done'! Yes, I live in that part of the country. You know foreplay around here, 'git er drunk, git er home, n git er done'! Oh well, first things first. And it is back to moving and putting everything away. There was stuff all over the house yesterday, and it was driving me nuts. So all the food is sorted nicely in the pantry, all of the cookware and kitchenware is nice and tidy, and the bathrooms are all nice and clean. So today is the boys bedroom dressers and their clothes. Yea, all I need is a 50's style dress and I will be set. Gott run. Love, Michelle Heart Heart

I envision you with the June Cleaver look....polka dot 50's skater dress, pearl necklace, pearl earrings...as you are tidying up the place.  BTW, you must have gotten your ears pierced by now, right?
Anne, oh I would love a 50s style skater dress. Some day. Christmas is only a few months away, and I've been a good girl this year. And sadly, no on the ears. It is on my list, but probably another Christmas present. I've just got to get through this move, get my RV sold, and get the medical stuff lined up. Love ya, Michelle Heart Heart

Oh Michelle dear, you have got to get your ears pierced asap.  I so wish I could get mine pierced.  So many styles of pierced earrings to choose from compared to the clip-on's.   Think how easy you will make it for your two boys to get you a present of earrings for your birthday or Christmas.  I think it takes about 3 to 4 weeks for the hole to completely heal when you get them pierced for the first time.  I don't think it is that expensive to get it done too.  You know you need to go for it.   Heart   Have a great day.  Angel
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